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In conjunction with Building a Different Model: Selections from the di Rosa Collection, join guest curator Dan Nadel along with artists Peter Saul and William Allan for this lively conversation and idea exchange. Highlighting some of the concentric circles of collaboration, influence and collegiality within the exhibition, the two painters will be in conversation about art, ideas, and their 1967 film with Bruce Nauman, Untitled (Flour Arrangements), in which the two artists talked about ways of seeing and making. The original film will be screened, followed by “the same talk but with different words” with Allan and Saul, along with Nadel.

Dan Nadel is a writer and curator based in New York. His past exhibitions include Samaritans, Galerie Eva Presenhuber, New York (2019); Gertrude Abercrombie, Karma, New York (2018); Red Grooms, Handiwork 1955–2018, Marlborough Contemporary, New York (2018); What Nerve! Alternative Figures in American Art: 1960 to the Present, RISD Museum, Providence, and Matthew Marks Gallery, New York (2014–15); Return of the Repressed: Destroy All Monsters 1973–1977, Prism, Los Angeles (2011); and The Passing of Time: Michael Hurson at Work, 1971–2001, Paula Cooper Gallery, New York (2017–18). Nadel is a frequent contributor to Artforum and the New York Review of Books. He has authored several books, including The Collected Hairy Who Publications (Matthew Marks, 2015), Art Out of Time: Unknown Comics Visionaries 1900–1969 (Abrams, 2006), and Dorothy and Otis: Designing the American Dream (Harper Design, 2015). His upcoming exhibitions include Landscape without Boundaries and Kathy Butterly, both at the Jan Shrem and Maria Manetti Shrem Museum of Art, Davis.

Peter Saul was born in 1934 in San Francisco, California. He studied at the California School of Fine Arts from 1950-1952 and the Washington University School of Fine Arts from 1952-56. Saul is considered one of the fathers of Pop Art. He is known for his distinctively colorful and cartoonish paintings which satirize American culture. In his over fifty year career, Saul has depicted the most pressing issues of society in a manner that destroys pretensions, exposes artificiality, and heightens awareness. Saul has been the recipient of numerous honors and awards throughout his career including the the John Simon Guggenheim Memorial Foundation Fellowship in 1993, and he was elected to the American Academy of Art and Letters in 2010. Saul’s works have been exhibited widely nationally and internationally and can be found in major collections around the world including Centre Georges Pompidou, Paris; di Rosa Center for Contemporary Art, Napa; Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles; Museum of Modern Art, New York; Moderna Museet, Stockholm; San Francisco Museum of Modern Art; and the Whitney Museum of American Art, New York.

William Allan was born in 1936 in Everett, Washington. He received his BFA from the California School of Fine Arts in 1958. Throughout his career, Allan has worked across multiple media including drawing, painting, sculpture, and film. His early experiments in film and performance with artist Bruce Nauman embraced tenets that marked his entire career: poetic observation of our relationship to nature and the ways human consciousness intersects its flow. Allan’s work has been exhibited widely nationally and internationally including the seminal exhibition Funk curated by Peter Selz at the Berkeley Art Museum in 1967 (alongside Saul) and his first major solo exhibition at the Whitney Museum of American Art in 1974, curated by Marcia Tucker. Allan’s work is included in major collections including the Anderson Collection at Stanford University; Berkeley Art Museum; the Art Institute of Chicago; di Rosa Center for Contemporary Art, Napa; Museum of Modern Art, New York; Oakland Museum of California; San Francisco Museum of Modern Art; and the Whitney Museum of American Art, New York.

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William Allan, Bruce Nauman, and Peter Saul, Untitled (Flour Arrangements) (still), 1967. Video made for the National Center for Experiments in Television (NCET), KQED-TV, San Francisco. 24 min., 9 sec. Courtesy of University of California, Berkeley Art Museum and Pacific Film Archive.